Changeset: 124027582
This removes a large number of walk permissions from Shattuck and Adeline in Berkeley. These roads have sidewalks and parking cutouts on both sides, and also have bikelanes, however they have no walkable part and are high traffic. I have recently walked a
Closed by bebischof
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Discussion
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Comment from oba510
Hi, welcome to OSM. I'm the person who originally mapped the sidewalks on Shattuck and Adeline.
Please don't do this.
The access tags generally apply to the entire street, not just the vehicle lanes in the roadway. The vast majority of sidewalks in Berkeley have been mapped as an attribute of the way (using the sidewalk=both/left/right/no tag). When you tag a street with foot=no it means that pedestrians are completely banned from the street, including walking down the sidewalk, or along the edge of the road, or to a parked car. I don't think that's what you meant to do here.
The access tags are mainly about the legal access more so than whether it's a good idea or comfortable. I looked it up and the actual legal situation is...complicated, but it's not actually illegal to walk along the roadway on most ordinary city streets in Berkeley (including north and south Shattuck).
The foot=yes tags along the portions of Shattuck and Adeline where the sidewalks are mapped as separate ways were left over from before the sidewalks were mapped separately, and should probably be removed (but not necessarily changed foot=no). Those ways are tagged with sidewalk=separate which should tell routing software not to use them for pedestrian routing.
- Adeline Street (6351923), v62
- 10723757, v12
- Shattuck Avenue (21474143), v34
- Shattuck Avenue (22277726), v20
- Shattuck Avenue (22277727), v37
- Shattuck Avenue (22372750), v34
- Shattuck Avenue (25315493), v16
- Shattuck Avenue (25315496), v13
- Adeline Street (25315699), v33
- Martin Luther King Junior Way (25683313), v16
- Shattuck Avenue (26379240), v28
- Shattuck Avenue (32618073), v15
- Shattuck Avenue (34815518), v11
- Shattuck Avenue (88446824), v17
- Adeline Street (165864142), v17
- Adeline Street (165864158), v14
- Adeline Street (165864160), v13
- Adeline Street (165864168), v13
- Kala Bagai Way (193256685), v19
- Shattuck Avenue (195430727), v14
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