Changeset: 135791056
added translation to name:uk tag, no other changes were made
Closed by avinet_ua
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Comment from mavl
Hello. The "name:uk" tag must contain the real name in Ukrainian, but not the translation. For example:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/28965528
This object has no real name in Ukrainian.
Please, also see:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct -
Comment from mavl
This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 135796825 where the changeset comment is: Hi all. The changesets are reverted [DWG has the request to revert the changesets. Reason: autotranslate and nonexistent names - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/135791056].
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Comment from avinet_ua
You are wrong, the translation is needed so that foreign language users can find the necessary points of interest on the map. therefore return all the changes back or according to your logic there can be no other translation?
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Comment from mavl
The "name:uk" is needed if there is the real name in Ukrainian. There is no need to come up with a name just to have it on the map.
"name:uk=110кВ" - is not a name in any language. Someone added the "name" tag by mistake and you copied it into the "name:uk" tag.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/751178429
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/751167929/history
"If you plan to make any automated edit, you should discuss and document your plans beforehand." You may discuss it in Russian forum.
https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/ru/63 -
Comment from avinet_ua
you gived only few examples, that are errors than can happend, but what about of hundreds of names that you reverted? it seems like you dont know the purpose of name:lang tags, so before next change read the the docs and dont delete a lots of work
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Comment from avinet_ua
why Eiffel Tower in France have russian translation https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/5013364 ? it has such name? no. why it is translated into russian? error? look how much errors in France https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1uE3why Brandenburg Gate in Germany have russian translation https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/518071791 ? it has such name? no. why it is translated into russian? error? look how much errors in Germany https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1uE6
what you will say now? you see how much translated objects are? they are all errors?Now look at wikipedia about language in russia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia#Language
"... in 2010... and 1.1 million spoke Ukrainian."
when we look at diagram about population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ethnic_groups_in_Russia_of_more_than_1_million_people_2010_Census_English.pngwe will see 2 millions of ukrainians live in russia.thats why I translate regions and other objects into ukrainian language. because this is done over entire world - there are a lots of translations of object that in reality didnot have names placed in ex. "name:ru" tags.
so I will continue to translate and please re-read this note again if you have any concerns.
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Comment from mavl
There are many "name:uk" tags in Russia.
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/name%3Auk#map
Nobody is going to delete all "name:uk" tags in Russia. This tag is not for auto-translation.
About Eiffel Tower in France. Eiffel Tower has the name in Russian for many years. Just like Moscow city it has the name in Ukrainian.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1686293227 -
Comment from woodpeck_repair
This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 135881588, 135910078, 135892735, 135902227 where the changeset comment is: remove translated names, DWG Ticket#2023050710000078
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