Changeset: 82472573
reclassifying route=train relations that don't contain railway=rail or otherwise represent passenger trains
Closed by clay_c
Tags
created_by | JOSM/1.5 (15937 en) |
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Discussion
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Comment from stevea
I politely disagree with the tag route=tram on BJWR. It's a route=train, it simply happens to run on miniature tracks. There are lots of these, they are trains, not trams.
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Comment from stevea
I think we leave passenger=local off of these, for sure.
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Comment from Allison P
Ditto for Disneyland Railroad and some amusement rides.
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Comment from stevea
Yes, while "amusement park" rail has yet to be fully fleshed out semantically (very well, very comprehensively), I'm 100% certain we don't do so with route=tram. That's a particular thing (not this). A tram might get passenger=local, but amusement park trains (like miniature trains in suburban parks, too), no, those don't get a passenger tag at all. So, that's a good place to begin to "cleave these apart," but it isn't the whole conversation.
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Comment from Dr Kludge
I appreciate the passion of this change. However, you edited out local knowledge. I left comments about my last change in the hopes that other mappers would understand that my public transportation network is different. I am removing your edits.
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Comment from Dr Kludge
A mass edit list this across a large area is never good!
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Comment from clay_c
Alright, I reverted the amusement park rides to route=train. The railway infrastructure ("subdivision") relations I reclassified as route=railway remain that way.
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Comment from stevea
Yes, that seems better; correct in both cases (underlying infrastructure as route=railway and "small" trains like miniature and amusement park are route=train, not route=tram). Thanks.
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Comment from clay_c
Hi Dr Kludge,
I appreciate your work keeping Phoenix's light rail system up-to-date. I've addressed your criticisms of my changeset here. I left a comment on your changeset (https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/82526320), which you have clearly read because you've already fixed one aspect of it (https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/82533802).
Could you please answer the rest of my questions? Is there something specific to Valley Metro that makes stop IDs more fit for the name=* tag rather than the ref=* tag? How come VMLR is mapped with "train" tags rather than "light_rail" tags as used on light rail lines in the rest of the country?
- 4004143, v24
- Disneyland Railroad (49884676), v8
- Disneyland Railroad (49884677), v17
- Disneyland Railroad (107950356), v11
- Disneyland Railroad (107950370), v6
- Disneyland Railroad (107955638), v9
- Disneyland Railroad (107955643), v7
- 107955654, v10
- 108063807, v5
- 108063809, v7
- 108063817, v5
- Disneyland Railroad (110191590), v6
- Disneyland Railroad (122156688), v7
- Disneyland Railroad (122156690), v9
- Disneyland Railroad (133727628), v4
- Disneyland Railroad (133727634), v4
- Disneyland Railroad (133728384), v5
- Disneyland Railroad (133728389), v7
- Disneyland Railroad (133808462), v4
- Disneyland Railroad (133808463), v5
Relations (1-20 of 40)
- 1
- 2
- Light Rail (1266358), v45
- Coffeyville Subdivision (1431149), v50
- KC Metro Subdivision (1431644), v23
- Pittsburg Subdivision (1457810), v25
- Disneyland Railroad (1796774), v51
- Walt Disney World Railroad (1965420), v20
- Trenton Subdivision (2214675), v40
- Creston Subdivision (2281018), v35
- Perry Subdivision (2295709), v5
- Minnesota River Valley Railroad (2698385), v5
- Serengeti Railway (4128779), v2
- Allentown And Auburn (4767040), v3
- Shay Railroad (4767042), v2
- Hogwarts Express (5422083), v5
- Zoo Line (5883849), v4
- Redwood Forest Steam Train (5927779), v5
- Main (6186589), v7
- Libertyland Flyer RR (6517783), v4
- 6723174, v2
- Redwood Valley Railway (6804565), v5
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