Hi Milhouse, thanks for taking the time to comment. House numbers are not really legible on the imagery, but luckily, I had mapped them all already. In one estate where I hadn’t, I had the camera in one hand and used StreetComplete with the other which wasn’t ideal, but I didn’t walk through the estate twice.

The quality from walking with a selfie stick is still better than on the helmet, but maybe my helmet is also not stable enough in my head.

Et voila: panoramax

Oh, good question, I completely forgot to write about that aspect! Will add it to the text.

@ivanbranco: Very interesting about the Serbian ones, so many! You could add the new tag as well, if you like. From the two that have wikimedia links, they don’t seem to be decorated (apart from the crosses cut into them which I didn’t spot in the photos), could you elaborate a little on what their meaning is, because that isn’t covered on the wiki page, and the Google translation is somewhat difficult to understand.

I wouldn’t mind a sacred_tree=zapis, even if it is not English, but if these things don’t exist in the English speaking word, I think it’s okay to use the local language.

Thanks for sharing!

Looks like a very interesting project, well done!

@simonschaufi: How do you know nobody in the future will come along and look for exactly that information? I’d rather map the obscure stuff and nobody will come looking for that data than someone coming along not finding any information. And it isn’t like we’re leaving out the “more important” stuff in favour of obscure things. You don’t get to 8 million map changes by only mapping pavement lights.

And the government authorities are looking for that information coming to us now, because they can’t get the information anywhere else.

And if GovernorKeagon only takes an interest in historic stuff, so be it. At least it got them into mapping. And they have mapped other things as well.

And I’m sure, like so many of us, they see more things and other things than before they were mapping, pavement lights just being one example.

Happy mapping with the buildings!

Welcome to this noble cause!

It’s very much a learning by doing and learning by asking around, in my experience.

You have your work cut out for yourself in Northampton anyways.

@amanda, I noticed that too. But both words are of Anglo-Saxon/ Old English/ Old Saxon origin, as far as I’m aware. Maybe “pund” is something naughty in Old Norse, so they continued only with the synonym. :D

I agree with SomeoneElse that they have different functions and should be tagged different.

However, having looked at the 7 entries for “pound” on the Canmore database, they looked more like sheepfolds to me (location in remote areas and size) and were called either “Sheepfold” or “Cattlefold” on the old OS maps. That does not mean that we have to follow their example. 7 is of course not a representative number, but these are the only listed monuments I could find.

It could also be that people in Ireland used “pound” for any type of enclosure, including the ones were a fee has to be paid AND sheepfolds/ cattlefolds. As I have laid out in my video about them, the accounts in the Schools’ Collection rarely explain the function of the enclosure referred to as “pound”.

The National Monuments Service in the Republic of Ireland only has a category “enclosure” which could be anything from a unidentified ringfort (plough-levelled) to an unidentified ecclesiastical enclosure (i.e. early monastery site) to an animal enclosure to possibly even some burial site. It’s can be hard to tell, when you only see a cropmark on aerial imagery, and you can’t go excavating 10,000+ enclosures to figure out what they were used for.

I’ve just checked Canmore; they also call them “pound” and list 7 of them. They don’t have “pinfold” as a classification.

I’m still waiting to be shown a historic car pound in real life or in a heritage database.

I understand that you feel more comfortable with “pinfold”, but most people in Ireland, Scotland, Wales and New England will probably not know what it is, because they all use(d) “pound”.

The value is now documented in the Wiki, so anyone in doubt can read there how to use the tag, so there shouldn’t be any confusion.

Hi, I only came across your name while writing the report about the Fingal task in Ireland and had wondered who that was. Thanks for helping out! It is very much appreciated.

Das waere auch mein Vorschlag gewesen. :D

I meant a fox covert that is still used as such. It was my hunting friend who wrote the book about Fox Hunting in Co. Kilkenny who told me that. I’m inclined to believe her. I’m sure there are former Fox Coverts which still bear the name that are now used to grow wood. The name stuck, just like it did with field names that are no longer used in their original purpose, like “The Kennels”, “Flax Field”, “Lime Kiln Field”.

Interesting case, I haven’t come across those, but a lot in Kilkenny are integrated into fences, so you could hold on to the fence. Back to your question, maybe a boot_scraper:handle=yes?

@Matt_: I did, yes. I might even add a German version. I’m glad you enjoyed it.

@motogs: That is a fair point. The 6 amenity=boot_scraper that are already mapped are also in that park context. I have no problem with separating the two uses, because boot scrapers in “my” sense are used when entering a place and are strictly associated with entrances, because that was my approach, whereas the boot cleaners in nature are of a different date and somewhat purpose, more variety in how the cleaning is done and being used when leaving a place (always?). I wouldn’t mind if the nature ones (scrapers and brushes) are all mapped as amenity=boot_cleaner. I think they can also sometimes found at farms to prevent the spread of BSE and things like that, but I’m not sure if they’re not a type of bath for wellies and how permanently they are installed.

I will move this also to the talk page on the wiki, because I would have to re-write the page in parts, if we come to an agreement.

I was pleasantly surprised that almost all, if not all martellos were mapped in some shape or form.

I was actually wondering whether we should have a ref:martello for all the numbered ones in the UK and Ireland, even though some numbers might overlap, maybe ref:IE:martello and ref:UK:martello.

I forgot to mention it here, but I said it in the video: left/right is always seen as going into the door, because that is when you use the boot scraper.

@valhikes: I mapped them from my “cultural background”, but interesting to hear that they are finding a sort of revival. As long as the tag can be added to something they’re associated with or attached to, all is well, I think.