Changeset: 114457603
Reduced MVC-Redwood Road to Primary. Not designed to be an expressway. Please consult future MVC design.
Closed by TheConductor
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created_by | JOSM/1.5 (18118 en) |
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source | Local Knowledge; Survey; https://uplan.maps.arcgis.com/apps/StorytellingSwipe/index.html?appid=e630310b07564f51aec2030bfe377679# |
Discussion
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Comment from Joseph R P
Trunk isn't necessarily exclusively for expressways. It's also for important and high speed roads that can serve a similar purpose, like US 6 from Spanish Fork to Helper. The Redwood Road corridor connecting the two UT 85 segments temporarily acts as the only way for cars to get to each segment. When the MVC corridor is built as the bypass around this section it then should be downgraded to primary. You can find this a lot around the US when a regular main street is the only way to get from expressway segment 1 to expressway segment 2. Sometimes a bypass is later on built around the town the surface street passes though and the bypass is tagged as trunk/motorway and the main street is tagged down to primary as it is no longer the only through road to get from segment 1 to segment 2. See the examples here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States/2021_Highway_Classification_Guidance#Trunk
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Comment from TheConductor
I appreciate your thoughts on this issue. We've discussed this topic several times before in other parts of the county and I acknowledge that you have taken time to learn and to make well meaning edits in OpenStreetMap. I'd also like to acknowledge that I am aware that the "trunk" classification is not exclusively reserved for expressways. I also understand your reasons for wanting to classify Redwood Road as "trunk" to connect what looks like two disconnected segments.
From a purely cartographic perspective, you are absolutely correct that Redwood Road serves as a corridor that connects two segments but the difference here is that I live here and understand the general travel patterns of commuters. I also have a unique perspective because I live in Salt Lake County and have someone in my family that commutes each day to Saratoga Springs in Utah County. Interstate 15 is our major North-South corridor that 95%+ of those people who live in Salt Lake County but work in Utah County use to get to Saratoga Springs/Eagle Mountain. The same is true of people who live Saratoga Springs/Eagle Mountain and work in Salt Lake County. The vast majority of commuters use MVC at 2100 North to access Interstate 15 to then go north to places of work in Salt Lake County. The people who work in Lehi, Orem, or Provo also use 2100 North or Pioneer Crossing to access Interstate 15 to then go north or south to access final destinations and/or places of work. While Redwood Road looks like a higher speed road that connects two expressways, the reality is that speed limit is 45 MPH and it only serves as an access point to the neighborhoods and businesses that are directly adjacent to it. Interstate 15 is the significantly quicker option when it comes to North-South commuting.
I hope this explanation helped explain my reasoning for reverting the classification to "primary".
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Comment from Joseph R P
Thanks for the clarification. Just a correction though, the speed of UT 68 from Porter Rockwell Boulevard to the other MVC segment is (at least mostly) 55 MPH. That was another reasoning of me upgrading the corridor.
Ways (9)
- Redwood Road (10149639), v36
- Redwood Road (10225926), v30
- North Redwood Road (156519355), v15
- West Porter Rockwell Boulevard (165924212), v19
- West Porter Rockwell Boulevard (455725387), v9
- Redwood Road (547176486), v9
- Redwood Road (547176487), v12
- North Redwood Road (791991924), v6
- Redwood Road (962351889), v3
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