Changeset: 135968500
Restoring what a toxic user reverted without my approval and communication, good and useful data
Closed by undofen
Tags
created_by | reverter_plugin/36066;JOSM/1.5 (18721 en) |
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Discussion
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Comment from ivanbranco
I don't think mapping speeds above the legal limit is a good idea.
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Comment from undofen
Hello,
I agree that maxspeed:practical above maxspeed is debatable, but hear me out, and let me know what you think:On the Polish OSM Wiki (actually not anymore, up until yesterday, someone just pasted the EN version into PL), the maxspeed:practical tag was described as "reasonably achieavable speed putting aside the speed limit". And while that is different from the EN description, I think some differences between countries and their interpretations are ok.
I queried the API for the uses of maxspeed:practical, and both in PL and outside there are many uses where maxspeed:practical is > than maxspeed. My intepretation (and use) of this tag is, "what speed does an average user drive here" - which is what the practical speed kind of is. Not the fastest, not the slowest, but what most people do here. And that in some cases means a bit above the speed limit.
I'm using these values for tuning a self-driving agent for cars, not to tell it how to drive, but to be able to compare its actions to the average speed of a human driver - hence the "real" values, even if they go a bit above the limit are better, because they reflect human driver. The self-driving hardware provides logs with telemetrics of the rides, I'm trying to use a rounded average in good conditions without traffic of how people drive. Capping maxspeed:practical at maxspeed is not the end of the world for me, but I'm not sure of the benefits. The consumer of the data can always discard the values higher than the speed limit, so we would only be removing information making it reflect real-life less - that's my opinion on this.
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Comment from undofen
Ivanbranco, I thought about this a bit more, and now that the Polish WIKI description is also against this, I decided to remove the values when higher than the speed limit. It was debatable when there was something backing this approach up, now there isn't anymore. I've removed most of the instances, I'll remove the rest later today and after that, I will only be adding values lower than the maxspeed.
- Aleja Piastów (15118987), v14
- Aleja Wiśniowa (15804616), v37
- Czekoladowa (15921116), v23
- Czekoladowa (15921122), v25
- Czekoladowa (15921123), v21
- Aleja Armii Krajowej (16228087), v64
- rondo Ryszarda Chomicza (20555254), v28
- 35 (20555728), v36
- Aleja Armii Krajowej (22673803), v35
- Świdnicka (22926964), v28
- 347;372 (22930457), v22
- Czekoladowa (25010734), v17
- Stawowa (25118902), v34
- Stawowa (25118903), v18
- Wrocławska (25118904), v23
- Kłodzka (28345080), v30
- Aleja Armii Krajowej (28458082), v31
- Aleja Wiśniowa (28458756), v28
- Ojca Beyzyma (28460402), v20
- Aleja Piastów (32798101), v12
Relations (12)
- 119: Sołtysowice → Blacharska (38331), v134
- 607: Kwiska → Biskupice Podgórne LG Chem Energy I (51283), v104
- Dawna droga wojewódzka nr 370 (562686), v29
- 119: Blacharska → pl. Daniłowskiego (2393942), v91
- 119: Blacharska → Sołtysowice (2393943), v91
- Szlak dookoła Wrocławia im. doktora Bronisława Turonia (4192054), v263
- Droga wojewódzka nr 372 (7441740), v64
- 512: Wrocław → Przełęcz Tąpadła (7964536), v26
- 512-Kunów - Wrocław (8127400), v26
- 947: Smolec Lipowa/pętla → Oporów (13504765), v18
- 947: Oporów → Smolec Lipowa/pętla (13504766), v17
- Dawna droga wojewódzka nr 347 (13620129), v15
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