Changeset: 142550638
New cycleways (parially mapped), corrections, improbements along the Ciclovia Riviera Berici
Closed by voschix
Tags
created_by | JOSM/1.5 (18789 en_GB) |
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source | Bing; Esri; Strava Global HeatMap; Mapillary; GPX; survey |
Discussion
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Comment from Robhubi
It is rather unkind to intervene in an ongoing clean-up process without discussion. I will revert your change to relation 1607435. When I'm done, I'll share it here.
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Comment from voschix
Sorry about this. But I had kindly asked to freeze that operation. I was trying to update details unrelated to the big picture of how to the I1 route is organized. I had assumed you were pausig. When I tried to upload my rsther big changeset I found a conflict. You were apparently changing the relation to superroute (which may or may not be a good idea),. In orfer to save my details I had to revert your re-arrangement.
Please stop with that intervention, until we have a better picture of what is on the ground. In particular I had corrected the on the ground detailsof the E7 relation exactly where it intersects the I1. In fact in the Regione Veneto documentation of I1 they "use" a part of the E7 that does noot carry any I1 signs (the part that goes to Lago Fimon). In addition the E7 signing on the ground takes a different course on the ground than in the official documentation. I am off for a bike tour now. Please leave things untouched there. -
Comment from Robhubi
I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that you were editing the I1 object now. Where did I read over that?
The reasoning "Please stop with that intervention, until we have a better picture of what is on the ground" is still not comprehensible to me. On the contrary, if you want to adjust the route to the signposting on the ground, the clean-up should be awaited because a) I don't change ways and b) afterwards corrections based on the signposting on the ground are easier and more reliable to make.
I assumed you accepted my argument, obviously a mistake, sorry.
I think a common point is that we should not edit the same object at the same time. I need one more day. Can you wait that long? Or how long do you need? -
Comment from voschix
Could you please first send me an OSM message ( outside the changeset discussion) describing what your "cleanup" is. One problem I see is that your new "main" route is not obvious. Than there is the problem that we have two different routes in the web-based documentation (Veneto Strade and Regione Veneto) and then, a third one signed on the ground. I suggest we stop both inserting data and first of all agree on what want to achieve, and then agree on how to map it. Maybe we can chat or videoconference on WhatsApp? Not today, however.
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Comment from Robhubi
OK, I'll send you an OSM message with a more detailed description of my process.
I have already mentioned the source for the main route.
The 2 or more differently documented I1-routes are irrelevant to the cleanup.
Agreed, we both stop inserting data until we have a common understanding. -
Comment from Robhubi
I sent you a PM on 15 October 2023 at 20:37. Please check your OSM mailbox
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- 1215468355, v1
- 1215468356, v1
- Pista Ciclabile Noventa-Vicenza (1215468357), v1
- Pista Ciclabile Noventa-Vicenza (1215468358), v1
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- Pista Ciclabile Noventa-Vicenza (1215468362), v1
- Pista Ciclabile Noventa-Vicenza (1215468363), v1
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Relations (15)
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- Ciclovie dei Fiumi del Triveneto - Bacchiglione (1751982), v315
- Ciclabile Riviera Berica (2195703), v51
- Cammino Fogazzaro-Roi (6048999), v73
- I paesaggi di Palladio (vecchia versione) (6498666), v34
- AIDA (11733679), v654
- Ciclovia Riviera Berica (13286256), v22
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