Changeset: 145424213
retagged hillforts to hilltop enclosures, because they are no longer considered forts, added wikipedia link
Closed by b-unicycling
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created_by | JOSM/1.5 (18907 en) |
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source | Bing |
Discussion
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Comment from SomeoneElse
Hello,
By changing this from the tag that people knew about to one that they don't it means that features like this disappear off maps again (or rather - see http://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#18/54.37823/-1.96709 - fall back to be shown as a generic archaeological site).Obviously these sorts of things becoming more known as defended settlements (often constructed in a "look at me" kind of way). They are very definitely still "defended fortifications" as well as settlements though.
Is it really too much to ask that rendering-breaking tag changes like this are at least mentioned somewhere first? https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/general/tagging/70 or maybe https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/help-and-support/tagging/71 would be a good place to mention it; you can also contact any advertised data consumers from e.g. https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/archaeological_site#projects - if you click through to the project from there you'll be able to e.g. raise a github issue.
Best Regards,
Andy -
Comment from b-unicycling
You're right, of course. Please feel free to revert the changesets.
I suppose it was a combination of being frustrated by the proposal process, getting carried away after watching a documentary about hilltop enclosures and thinking I know best. As you might be able to see, I haven't even made up my mind about whether to class them as fortifications or not.
I actually lay awake last night thinking that I maybe went too far, but then I got distracted with something else and forgot about it today. -
Comment from SomeoneElse
I suspect that some of these are settlement first; defensive second, and some (I'm thinking of some of the more extreme promontory forts) are the other way around.
It's definitely worth someone having a think about the tree of other tags associated with "historic" and especially "historic=archaeological_site", because as it stands things are a bit confusing.
https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/SomeoneElse-style/blob/master/style.lua#L7126-L7290 currently covers how I'm handling it, but I bet filling in more details in some cases (such as the civilization for settlements) would be really helpful.
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