Changeset: 146820290
road renovation has ended and now road is open to traffic
Closed by JulijaFrid
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created_by | iD 2.27.3 |
host | https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit |
imagery_used | Orthophoto (2016–2018), 1:5000, Latvia |
locale | en-GB |
Discussion
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Comment from HellMap
Hi!
Could you please clarify your intention with this edit? This road has never been tagged as open to public because it is a gated bus-only access with only private (employee) access for other vehicles. Have the restrictions changed now after reconstruction? Setting tag to `motor_vehicle=yes` doesn't mean it's open or closed - it means motorized vehicles can legally enter this road.
Thanks
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Comment from JulijaFrid
Hello,
Problem is that GraphHopper can't create route with this road. This road is used only for bus to get to Riga International Bus Station. I's doesn't matter it will be public or opened I just need to download osm.pbf for GraphHopper. At this moment this road is used by buses to get to/from station.
Best regards,
Julija -
Comment from HellMap
Thanks for clarifying! A couple points.
You should not make any changes to OSM to "fix" some other router (or navigator, map, app, etc.). OSM contains the data and it should be correct and accurate. If another application is not using it correctly - it should be fixed there.
You say that GraphHopper cannot create a route. Well, it sounds like it shouldn't - this road is not accessible to anything that is not buses. Therefore, `motor_vehicle=yes` would not be correct.
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Comment from JulijaFrid
Diar Sir/Madam!
Let me explain my problem in more detail - this road has always been used for buses.
But before updating the map, GraphHopper allowed to get directions there.
These routes are used by official bus carriers. Now, after updating the osm of the map, but without changing
any settings of the GraphHopper, the route (once again clarifying that we are talking only about buses) can no longer be created.
Please specify what we need to indicate on the map to for creating routes for busses? At the moment, this is a very urgent problem for carriers.
Best regards,
Julija -
Comment from HellMap
Sorry, I don't think I understand you.
If this road is for buses only, then how can `motor_vehicle=yes` be correct? That includes all motorized vehicles - automobiles, motorcycles, trucks, buses, etc.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:motor_vehicle
All these roads have (and always had) `bus=yes`. This allows public service buses.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bus#As_an_access_tag
To further clarify access tag hierarchy. `bus` is a type of `motor_vehicle` and `bus` value overrides `motor_vehicle` value. In other words, `motor_vehicle=no` or `motor_vehicle=yes` does nothing for buses when there is `bus=yes`. Therefore, if changing `motor_vehicle` matters for GraphHopper, then it sounds like there is a problem in your settings.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access#Transport_mode_restrictions
Obviously, I don't know what your settings are. I can only tell you what the correct tags are based on your description. And your description of these roads sounds like `access=no` + `bus=yes` - only buses allowed (which it had before).
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Comment from richlv
BTW, it might be more convenient to discuss this in the OSM community chat, https://osmlatvija.zulipchat.com .
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