Changeset: 65858808
St. Croix Crossing bridge
Closed by Skybunny
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Discussion
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Comment from noliver
Just noticed that you moved the WI64/MN36 split to the state line. Do you know that this is correct? On the road, the signage for the split is installed well into Wisconsin:
https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/e3SZ2GaI1Y0j2_4qXhlAUQ -
Comment from Skybunny
Legally I'm sure that's the case (and this being a new bridge, I probably just made that guess.) That said...especially if the other direction says the same thing, there's a strong case for making the position where you're indicating with the Mapillary photo.
If you do move it, I'd add a note to the node where the split is made, saying 'This is based on signage, not the state line.' Then the reasoning is understood/documented, and could be discussed further.
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Comment from Skybunny
(To further state where I'm at; I don't feel a strong need to have it 'at the state line' if signage shows differently. But if you do put it there, just make sure there's a note tag on it so that future mappers, possibly including me - or anyone else - knows why it's there!)
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Comment from noliver
Thanks for the response.
I'd initially based it on the eastbound sign above, and the westbound sign ( https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/QJxJPI5a8vGa_vaNUmSR6g ), as well as this note: ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1111260 ). Though looking around, other than the signs, the data I've found so far indicates that the split _IS_ the state line. I can't tell if the issue is that the data sources don't have a way to indicate that MNDOT owns something outside the state, or that the transition is truly the state line. (I've seen one source that willfully mis-draws the MN/WI state line around the bit of MN23 that's in WI to make it appear to be fully in MN, so there's definitely some limitations in the online data I've found so far. I'm going to leave this as-is while I dig a bit more.
If I do end up moving it, I'll take your advice and put notes on the nodes at the split (and maybe the state line too) citing whatever sources I can find.
Ways (13)
- Saint Croix Crossing (658987666), v1
- Saint Croix Crossing (658987667), v1
- Saint Croix River (474253839), v3
- Saint Croix River (474253840), v3
- Saint Croix River (474253842), v3
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- Saint Croix Crossing (509122477), v6
- Saint Croix Crossing (238131913), v11
- WI 64 (383109162), v10
- WI 64 (238131912), v12
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Relations (2)
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